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Tomshardware 12:23 Tue Jun 13
Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Yet we gave players such as Calleri and Feghouli chance after chance even though they were both rubbish. Also our defence was shipping loads of goals so a youngster couldn't have done much worse.

We used to be the academy of football but that seems to no longer be West Ham.

Johnson 12:28 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Judging by the various comments our chairmen have made over the years and Gold0 on Twitter very recently, they might be a good pair to ask.

Don't expect an honest reply from them though.

Grumpster 12:31 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Modern football is all about the Wonga and managers are rarely given time at clubs, so I guess they shit themselves and always try to use experience instead.

We're not the only club guilty of it, most of the premiership is.

Was extremely annoying that some weren't given a run at the end of the season.

Dr Moose 12:31 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Because a majority of fans want instant success; this won't happen when you bring young players through unless you have a few Harry Kane's in your setup. Its a sad state of affairs but money rules in football so clubs are under pressure to buy success rather than nurture it and bring it through the ranks as well as the cost of relegation.

Aardvark 12:32 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Unfortunately when you have an owner that publicly says they're not good enough and a manager who appears to do exactly what he is told to do by the other owner, it doesn't give our youth much hope of progressing to the first team squad.

AlvinMartinAllen 12:33 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Probably because our youth players aren't as good as senior players that can demand a big wage. If you think those two you mentioned are shit imagine what standard most of our youth are.

Reece Oxford couldn't even get regular football at Reading and he is our best prospect.

Sydney_Iron 12:34 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

think we still do but its a bit of a lottery as to if a youngster will make it or not, few years ago we produced a few, even know the likes of Burke and Oxford are still regarded as great prospects, if or when they cut the mustard is another matter.......................

goose 12:35 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Beard says you cant win the league with kids.

Eddie B 12:36 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

If Bilic was after instant success, why keep persisting with the proven lump of shit Calleri?

Rossal 12:39 Tue Jun 13
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Alvin....

thats not neccersarily true. Calvert Lewin at Everton was given a chance and ousted the higher paid, more experienced Enner Valencia

The problem with our club is that the manager is too scared to give them a chance, and too blind to see how poor some of our first team regulars are

Either that or pressure from the board....either way its poor and should be changed

Johnson 12:41 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Enner Valencia is absolute DOGSHIT though to be fair.

Bungo 12:44 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

There was a guy on the radio this morning, (I think it was Paul Simpson?), talking about young players coming through to Prem League first team football.

He said you could spot talented players all day long on the training pitch, but it was only when they stepped out in front of 30/40,000 people that you found out if they were going to cut it or not.

As has been mentioned already, the need for instant success may make many managers reluctant to take the chance that their youngsters may freeze on the big stage?

Eerie Descent 12:45 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Well, the man who was in charge of youth development up until a couple of years ago is a club legend and can't be questioned, so we'll just have to say that it's because of bad luck that we've produced 3 players in over a decade who were good enough to cut it with us.

AlvinMartinAllen 12:47 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Valencia had a lot more appearances than Calvert Lewin, who is also rated far better than anyone we have.

I'm all for bringing through youth but not deluded in thinking that youth players are likely to become overnight successes and replace senior players with honours.

Lee Trundle 12:51 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Bilic comes across to me as an experience over youth man, especially over the last season.

Giving our teenagers 1 (ONE) minute of league football over the course of the season is pretty disappointing.

Eddie B 12:53 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

Carr was on a podcast about 18 months back, saying that Oxford is definitely a first teamer in waiting. Since then, the manager has either changed his mind, or Oxford has not developed like he should be doing.

JustAFatKevinDavies 12:54 Tue Jun 13
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Pretty reluctant to pin the blame on Bilic or indeed Allardyce for this. Short term contracts and short term goals from the top means its very easy for them to go with the tried and tested and indeed they are rewarded for it.

Id say its a cultural thing at the moment.

J.Riddle 12:58 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

We are a top team now having moved to the iconic 60k stadium. This is not Upton Park no more, we are an ambitious club aiming for the top four who will be looking over their shoulder with a team full of internationals, we only want marquee signings.

Stranded 12:59 Tue Jun 13
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Sullivan and Gold are draining them of their vital bodily fluids via an army of WAG succubus, and then injecting them into their own pineal glands.

Their husks are tossed into Brady's cage so she can gnaw on their bones and suck on their eyes.

Rossal 1:00 Tue Jun 13
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Yeah Koeman gave him a chance then there were games where he kept Enner out the team

There seems to be this conception that a youth player will make loads of fuck ups and cost loads of goals

They dont get to where they are without being able to handle pressure and the occasion, we should trust them more. I can think of far more youngsters that have came in and impressed this season across all clubs than ones that have come in and had a mare

Aardvark 1:02 Tue Jun 13
Re: Why don't West Ham bring young players through any more?

The amount of money that is in the PL now is obscene. The financial rewards for finishing a solitary place higher in the league is so vast, you're under obligation to play your strongest team until the last ball of the campaign is kicked.

I would've loved to have seen us hit 38 points and throw a youngster or two in for the remaining few games, but those days are sadly behind us.

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